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Krebons negating attack Vs Book Of Moon

Last post 11-20-2008, 7:43 PM by SheikSmash. 22 replies.
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  •  11-18-2008, 7:28 AM 1541585

    Krebons negating attack Vs Book Of Moon

    Player A Attack Player B face up Krebons

    Player B activate Krebons negating attack effect paying 800 LP.

    Player A Chains with book of moon to Player B Krebons.

    Question:  Does Krebons face down negate attack?



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  •  11-18-2008, 7:46 AM 1541606 in reply to 1541585

    Re: Krebons negating attack Vs Book Of Moon

    Yes.  Nothing says that Krebons needs to remain face-up to get its effect.  The better play would be to activate Book of Moon first.  Then declare the attack.

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  •  11-18-2008, 6:26 PM 1542366 in reply to 1541585

    Re: Krebons negating attack Vs Book Of Moon

    Actually, Krebons' effect is a trigger effect due to you needing to attack it first. You can choose to activate it or not. He is Spell Speed 1.

    Now, you can chain that with any spell speed 2 or higher card.

    Book of moon is spell speed 2.

    The activation of krebons' effect starts a chain, which player A is able to counter with BoM.

    Since official Yugioh rules state that a chain resolves from last to first, Book of Moon is chain link 2 and krebons is chain link 1.

    Therefore, Book of moon resolves first, causing krebons to flip face down, and then the attack goes through. Krebons effect will then disappear, and the player will still have to pay 800 because it is payment to activate the trigger.

    Krebons will then be destroyed because he is face down.

    Hope that helps.

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  •  11-18-2008, 6:30 PM 1542384 in reply to 1542366

    Re: Krebons negating attack Vs Book Of Moon

    2402161:
    Actually, Krebons' effect is a trigger effect due to you needing to attack it first. You can choose to activate it or not. He is Spell Speed 1.

    Now, you can chain that with any spell speed 2 or higher card.

    Book of moon is spell speed 2.

    The activation of krebons' effect starts a chain, which player A is able to counter with BoM.

    Since official Yugioh rules state that a chain resolves from last to first, Book of Moon is chain link 2 and krebons is chain link 1.

    Therefore, Book of moon resolves first, causing krebons to flip face down, and then the attack goes through. Krebons effect will then disappear, and the player will not have to pay 800 because he cannot negate the attack at the resolution of BoM.

    Krebons will then be destroyed.

    Hope that helps.

    I do not believe so. The effect was Already Activated and the Cost has been paid. Nothing says Krebons must be Face-up for his effect to Resolve. I would rule the effect would still be applied and Negate the Attack of the Opponent's monster.


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  •  11-18-2008, 7:38 PM 1542627 in reply to 1542366

    Re: Krebons negating attack Vs Book Of Moon

    disregard


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  •  11-18-2008, 7:49 PM 1542654 in reply to 1542627

    Re: Krebons negating attack Vs Book Of Moon

    1510038:

    disregard



    Lot of catching up to do still? Wink [;)]
  •  11-18-2008, 11:13 PM 1542798 in reply to 1542654

    Re: Krebons negating attack Vs Book Of Moon

    ah...the post i quoted was edited. so my post became irrelevant
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  •  11-19-2008, 5:30 AM 1542902 in reply to 1542384

    Re: Krebons negating attack Vs Book Of Moon

    The effect would be like activating book of moon against Grand Mole. He cannot bounce the cards back to the hand when he is in face-down defense.

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  •  11-19-2008, 5:49 AM 1542915 in reply to 1542902

    Re: Krebons negating attack Vs Book Of Moon

    You can't chain Book of Moon to Grand Mole's effect.  So your comparison is completely invalid.

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  •  11-19-2008, 6:14 AM 1542929 in reply to 1542902

    Re: Krebons negating attack Vs Book Of Moon

    2402161:
    The effect would be like activating book of moon against Grand Mole. He cannot bounce the cards back to the hand when he is in face-down defense.

    If you are Attempting to chain Book of Moon to Grand Mole's effect Activating that is an Illegal Activation. if you Book of Moon him before he can reach Damage Step then of course he wont get his effect because he will be flipped Face-down and his attack will fizzle so your answer is Invalid.


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  •  11-19-2008, 6:41 AM 1542945 in reply to 1542929

    Re: Krebons negating attack Vs Book Of Moon

    Please do not compare with different cards.

    PLEASE SOMEONE WITH KNOWLEDGE !!!!

    Maybe Curtis?

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  •  11-19-2008, 6:53 AM 1542948 in reply to 1542945

    Re: Krebons negating attack Vs Book Of Moon

    Curtis does not answer questions on this forum.  You have gotten an answer from some very knowledgeable people.  If you choose not to trust the answer given, ask the question on the official judge list and Curtis will get an answer for you from Konami.

    With that being said, you request for "SOMEONE WITH KNOWLEDGE !!!!" is quite rude and condescending to the people here who take time out of their lives to answer questions.  Please try to be considerate when posting.

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  •  11-19-2008, 6:57 AM 1542951 in reply to 1542948

    Re: Krebons negating attack Vs Book Of Moon

    768006:
    Curtis does not answer questions on this forum.  You have gotten an answer from some very knowledgeable people.  If you choose not to trust the answer given, ask the question on the official judge list and Curtis will get an answer for you from Konami.

    With that being said, you request for "SOMEONE WITH KNOWLEDGE !!!!" is quite rude and condescending to the people here who take time out of their lives to answer questions.  Please try to be considerate when posting.


    Sorry but isnt clear for me.
    Which one is the correct ruling???????????????

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  •  11-19-2008, 6:57 AM 1542952 in reply to 1542948

    Re: Krebons negating attack Vs Book Of Moon

    768006:
    Curtis does not answer questions on this forum.  You have gotten an answer from some very knowledgeable people.  If you choose not to trust the answer given, ask the question on the official judge list and Curtis will get an answer for you from Konami.

    With that being said, you request for "SOMEONE WITH KNOWLEDGE !!!!" is quite rude and condescending to the people here who take time out of their lives to answer questions.  Please try to be considerate when posting.
    I agree with the man.

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    O.O id say the man has more knowledge than you need lol.


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  •  11-19-2008, 7:25 AM 1542968 in reply to 1542951

    Re: Krebons negating attack Vs Book Of Moon

    1998736:
    768006:
    Curtis does not answer questions on this forum.  You have gotten an answer from some very knowledgeable people.  If you choose not to trust the answer given, ask the question on the official judge list and Curtis will get an answer for you from Konami.

    With that being said, you request for "SOMEONE WITH KNOWLEDGE !!!!" is quite rude and condescending to the people here who take time out of their lives to answer questions.  Please try to be considerate when posting.


    Sorry but isnt clear for me.
    Which one is the correct ruling???????????????
    The "correct" answer, in my opinion, is that Krebons does not need to be face up to negate the attack.  The effect is already on the chain.  D1case (Dave), explained in quite well in his response.

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